ME: These are horrible, the beam pattern will never be right, they are annoying to other vehicles and quite possibly a road hazard. If you cause an accident you may be held liable. Not worth it. (bing it)
Aside from that, the fan will eventually stop working or make a horrible sound, the heat from the LED and engine compartment will degrade the cheap wiring and connector which could lead to electrical issues.
i got about 4 pairs incandescent lights that already burnt out...even got pulled over for that...LED works and haven't been pulled over yet. - rays
You may never get pulled over, it's a question of liability, talk to your insurance or an attorney. Do a search, don't take my word for it.
My halogen lamps are on during the day as well. 8+ years.. Due for replacement only because they have dimmed about ~20%
super flubber , nobody will take your word for it. im a lawyer and what you are saying is incorrect. in sever states theres a yraly inspection if lights pass the inspection you get a sticker certifying your car is drivable you dont have any liability at all. i have aftermarket LED in my truck and cars with no issues. as a lawyer i cant tell you you are ******* wrong about it.
FWIW, the technical details section for these claims "Safety Rating: DOT Certified". Presumably there's some way to verify whether that's actually the case.
It's moot for me in this particular instance, since my apparently old-timey d/d isn't compatible with these.
FWIW, the technical details section for these claims "Safety Rating: DOT Certified". Presumably there's some way to verify whether that's actually the case.
It's moot for me in this particular instance, since my apparently old-timey d/d isn't compatible with these. - mapson
That's an easy one. DOT certifies drivers for a commercial license, does not certify any equipment. Now some lighting equipment is Dot compliant, which means they meet the FMVSS standard and are legal for use. LED retrofits in incan housings do not meet that standard, it is impossible for them to be DOT compliant and NONE are legal for use on public roads. Any seller mentioning DOT is misleading at best and usually just flat out lying, though could be just spreading misinformation out of ignorance.
super flubber , nobody will take your word for it. im a lawyer and what you are saying is incorrect. in sever states theres a yraly inspection if lights pass the inspection you get a sticker certifying your car is drivable you dont have any liability at all. i have aftermarket LED in my truck and cars with no issues. as a lawyer i cant tell you you are ******* wrong about it. - pitufokorea
If you are a lawyer, this is definitely not your field. Passing an inspection only means they found no violations at that point in time.
It doesn't even mean there aren't any violations at that point in time just none found. You are still liable for the vehicle including any mods you make (or reverse, which some do to pass inspections) after that point in time.
Besides, no inspection can magically validate an illegal vehicle modification. It's just as illegal after you pull out of the inspection site as when you drove in.
With certain vehicle failures, a plausible argument could be made that the owner didn't realize the state of disrepair, but that argument doesn't fly when actively making a modification. Owner could state didn't realize LED bulbs were illegal, but people can state that about any law they break and we know that doesn't fly if it causes an accident or annoys a LEO.
i got about 4 pairs incandescent lights that already burnt out...even got pulled over for that...LED works and haven't been pulled over yet. - rays
"OEM" bulbs tend to outlive LED drop ins by multiple times. If you bought high output aftermarket incandescent bulbs, sure, they do have shorter lifespan than OEM depending on how much they tried to burn brighter to achieve higher output.
If your OEM bulbs aren't lasting years, and you're not an overnight long haul delivery person to put on an atypical # of hours use, odds are you have a wiring fault causing them to flicker which is hard on incandescent bulbs.
super flubber , nobody will take your word for it. im a lawyer and what you are saying is incorrect. in sever states theres a yraly inspection if lights pass the inspection you get a sticker certifying your car is drivable you dont have any liability at all. i have aftermarket LED in my truck and cars with no issues. as a lawyer i cant tell you you are ******* wrong about it. - pitufokorea
If you're a lawyer. I'm a rocket scientist.
You work at McDonald's & your two fries short of a happy meal.
Vibrations and over-voltage from a poorly regulated alternator will tend to decrease incandescent lamps.
I once had a vehicle that was producing up to 18 volts. It would increase drastically when revving the engine.
I was surprised it didn't damage the battery, or anything else, but it was an older carburated truck.
smells like old farts in here..... probably because of all the old farts in here.... hey there super fibber, how about finding some magic link where a driver was ACTUALLY found guilty and liable for their headlights causing an accident? ridiculous. I've had these on my car for maybe 2 years now with zero issues except for all those oncoming cars that keep crashing, but I don't wait around for the fuzz feel me?
smells like old farts in here..... probably because of all the old farts in here.... hey there super fibber, how about finding some magic link where a driver was ACTUALLY found guilty and liable for their headlights causing an accident? ridiculous. I've had these on my car for maybe 2 years now with zero issues except for all those oncoming cars that keep crashing, but I don't wait around for the fuzz feel me? - JargonBargain
Son, do your own homework.
It's only a matter of time before you hit the proverbial brick wall. If karma doesn't get you, some maniac with road rage will.
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Aside from that, the fan will eventually stop working or make a horrible sound, the heat from the LED and engine compartment will degrade the cheap wiring and connector which could lead to electrical issues.
BEN: "TIMES UP!! "
ME: Yields microphone, walks away from soap box.
My halogen lamps are on during the day as well. 8+ years.. Due for replacement only because they have dimmed about ~20%
It's moot for me in this particular instance, since my apparently old-timey d/d isn't compatible with these.
It's moot for me in this particular instance, since my apparently old-timey d/d isn't compatible with these. - mapson
It doesn't even mean there aren't any violations at that point in time just none found. You are still liable for the vehicle including any mods you make (or reverse, which some do to pass inspections) after that point in time.
Besides, no inspection can magically validate an illegal vehicle modification. It's just as illegal after you pull out of the inspection site as when you drove in.
With certain vehicle failures, a plausible argument could be made that the owner didn't realize the state of disrepair, but that argument doesn't fly when actively making a modification. Owner could state didn't realize LED bulbs were illegal, but people can state that about any law they break and we know that doesn't fly if it causes an accident or annoys a LEO.
If your OEM bulbs aren't lasting years, and you're not an overnight long haul delivery person to put on an atypical # of hours use, odds are you have a wiring fault causing them to flicker which is hard on incandescent bulbs.
You work at McDonald's & your two fries short of a happy meal.
I once had a vehicle that was producing up to 18 volts. It would increase drastically when revving the engine.
I was surprised it didn't damage the battery, or anything else, but it was an older carburated truck.
Here's some info that may shed some light.
https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/03/how-do-we-stop-people-blinding-other-drivers-with-aftermarket-leds/
https://jalopnik.com/why-most-led-headlight-upgrades-dont-really-work-an-ex-1843070472
https://www.fgblawfirm.com/blog/2018/january/led-headlights-too-bright-/
https://www.brookslawgroup.com/blog/did-you-know-having-excessively-bright-headlights-could-put-you-at-fault-for-an-accident-you-were-not-involved-in/
It's only a matter of time before you hit the proverbial brick wall. If karma doesn't get you, some maniac with road rage will.
That's what happens when these kids grow up without a father figure to guide them.
They're callous & unemotional.
Thank you!